| Debate -- The Right Way To Keep an Empire
[Mytilene]
I. Read The Peloponnesian War,
pp. 212-223.
TO DO: in blank spaces below & in the margins of your book,
NOTE DOWN main issues & themes.
FIND & UNDERLINE in the text the themes underlined
in the following outline.
Plain numbers refer to the section-numbers printed in the margins
of the book.
Numbers in parentheses (1) refer to paragraphs with~in a main section.
Square brackets [*] are used, as in previous outlines, to set off groups
of sections [66-77].
36.1-2:
(1) THE ISSUE: 427 B.C.E.
(2)
[37-40: PORTRAIT of a DEMAGOGUE]
37 CLEON -- his views on:
democracy?
empire? (cf. p. 161 ¶ 63)
bad laws vs good laws?
man in street vs intellectuals?
38 Cleon's attitudes to whole GENRE of political
oratory, public expectations & tastes:
compare with Pericles, p. 144, ¶ 35:
contrast Pericles on money, pp. 159 & 164
contrast Pericles on value of debate, p. 147, ¶ 40.1
facts vs verbal criticism?
VALUE of pleasure in listening?
39.1-3: (1) Main thrust?
(2) Main thrust?
NOTE general rule of human nature
(3)
40.1-3(1) Weight given to pity, pleasure of clever
argument, claims of decency, imperial power
(2) Summation: how does Cleon view power? right?
wrong?
[42-48: portrait of enlightened imperialism]
41 DIODOTUS
42.1-2 His attitude towards GENRE of political
oratory, by contrast with CleonÆs? (cf. ¶ 38 above)
43 Paradox: man with good advice .. has to tell lies
.. to be believed
44 (1) What is the bottom line? In other words, on WHAT
BASIS should Athens decide according to Diodotus?
45 Value of death penalty in his view?
46.1-2
(2) IN SUM -- the bottom line again: not to injure
ourselves .. secure full use of cities which bring us important contributions
47 Main Thrust?
48 Main Thrust?
49 Main Thrust?
50 Main Thrust?
STUDY QUESTIONS: answer the following questions on the
basis of your reading:
How do the two speakers differ
in their views of public speaking?
Which views most closely resemble
those attributed to Pericles (p. 147, ¶ 40.1 proper discussions)?
Are both speakers equally
democratic?
How do the speakers view the
imperial power of Athens?
In this regard, how do their views relate to those of
Pericles?
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