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Athens vs Sparta -- 

Cultural Models in Collison


I. Read The Peloponnesian War, pp. 72-82.

TO DO: in blank spaces below & in the margins of your book,

NOTE DOWN main issues & themes.

FIND & UNDERLINE in the text the themes underlined in the following outline. 

Plain numbers refer to the section-numbers printed in the margins of the book. 

Numbers in parentheses (1) refer to paragraphs within a main section. Square brackets [ ] are used, as in previous outlines, to set off groups of sections [66-77]. 

66-67:WHO complains to WHOM against WHOM & WHY? 

[68-71: THE CONTRAST between TWO CULTURES]

68 69

 

WHICH CULTURE? 

confidence .. in .. constitution & own way of life 

moderate 

allowed ... Long Walls after Persian wars

(3) do nothing .. to prevent enemy’s expansion

68

69
 
 

 

WHICH CULTURE?

aggression on whole of Hellas

[Why was rebuilding the "LONG WALLS" an important issue? 

]

70: ATTITUDE TOWARDS change? 

 

70: ATTITUDE TOWARDS change & "quiet life"? 

 

71: Effect of new methods in POLITICS? 

72: Purpose of Athenian answer? 

73-78: Main Themes for Defence [sketch briefly]: 

(1) Past Merits? 

(2) Empire? 

(3) Risks Of War? 

73.1-2: GENERAL THEME: what do Athenians consider reasonable?

(1) WHAT are Athens’ main claims to fame in Persian War? 

on land? 490 B.C.E.

on sea 

74 What decided the Fate of Hellas? 

What unusual choice did Athens make? 

How did Athens’ choice differ from the traditional response to attack [cf. Iliad 18?} 

75 What does Athens claim to deserve? 

(2) HOW did Athens acquire EMPIRE if (as they say) not by force? 

What keeps an empire going?

Why is it hard to give up an empire?

76.1-2: By comparison, how did Sparta behave in past? 

What is normal HUMAN NATURE? 

77 How is Athens normally & naturally human? 

78 WAR: what is it like? 
 

STUDY QUESTIONS: Now answer the following questions [you can get further information on pages 45-46, ¶ 18-19]:

Did the Spartans behave well during the Persian War?
 

How does the story on pp. 45-46, ¶ 18-19 compare to the present story? 

How did Athens claim to have distinguished itself during the Persian War? 
 

How does the story on pp. 45-46, ¶ 18-19 compare to the present story? 
 

How did Athens create controversy after the Persian War? 

How does the explanation given on pp. 45-46, ¶ 18-19 compare to the present story? 
 

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